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blue grass

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 92
November 11, 2008 7:13am

It is amazing how this Spider looks as though it has just rolled out of the factory! You also wonder how they have dealt with the rust problem. A labour of love here. How do you like this Spider compared to the one driven by Dustin Hoffman in "The Graduate', Kayes?
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 11, 2008 8:20am

hi Blue Grass, here's the real McCoy, the Alfa Spider as known to the world and made famous in The Graduate. This Duetto Spider resides in the palace grounds of Kuala Kangsar and is owned by Raja Ahmad from new when he bought it in 1966. I have made several attempts to buy this car but each time I spoke to Raja Ahmad, he would ignore my offer and ask his lovely wife to make tea for me instead. Really sexy car, just look at the rear!


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/duetto10.jpg


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/duetto11.jpg


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/duetto12.jpg
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 11, 2008 9:20am

The Smart's rear gets a lot of admirers too Smile


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/smartad.jpg
blue grass

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 92
November 11, 2008 1:33pm

Simply beautiful Kayes. Thanks. This cute little Smart get the thumbs up from me too!!! I know, I know. She goes like a bomb, takes bends like no other and out climbs most cars. Definitely not just a pretty face.
blue grass

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 92
November 12, 2008 1:59am

Hi Kayes. Had to have another look at this Spider. It is so sexy! Yup, can't think of a better word to describe it. The rear alone can send you into raptures. They don't make cars like this anymore do they?
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 12, 2008 2:27pm

Here is a French rear of a Renault Dauphine. Not so clean but also curvy. I suppose it cannot beat an Italian job Smile


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/rear10.jpg
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 12, 2008 2:31pm

Something British.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/rear11.jpg
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 12, 2008 2:43pm

Teutonic rear.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/rear12.jpg
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, Limestone coast, South Australia
Posts: 79
November 13, 2008 11:50am

Normally I find the Italian and French "rears" to be more attractive. The British one looks a little bloated and lumpy in comparison. The German one is too wide having consumed too much wurst. Please don't post an American rear without a health warning.
blue grass

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 92
November 13, 2008 12:17pm

Glad to know that I am not the only one interested in 'rears'!
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 13, 2008 1:16pm

Mike, this American rear does have a health warning Smile


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/rear121.jpg
blue grass

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 92
November 13, 2008 2:47pm

Thanks for all those pics. How do you keep track of them? You must have thousands of pics and yet you seem to have them at your finger tips. Had to laugh at your latest one Kayes. Nicely done!
Norman Kelly

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 40
November 13, 2008 10:06pm

Hi Kayes,


I have to report that this evening was the first time I have clapped eyes on the 'Derriere' of one 'Renault Dauphine' since the early 1960's, leading me to think that Penang must be home for some wonderful classic marques of cars.


I'm thinking perhaps my old 'Morris Minor' registration 'PG9117' from my days of residence in Hillside, Tanjong Bungah, 1974-1977 may have been lovingly restored somewhere on the island.


Blown away at the restored 'Alfa Romeos' on the island, and I'm sure Mr Lim at the Orchid Farm, Balik Pulau is a active participant in any rallies on Penang.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 13, 2008 11:56pm

hi Norman, here's a pic of Lim dashing off in his GTV. I saw him coming out of his favourite coffee shop in Telok Bahang. I think your Morris Minor is having a good time. I have seen it recently and if I am not wrong, someone had chopped off the top and it is now a convertible .... or was it a convertible all along?


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/gtvlim.jpg
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 14, 2008 12:33am

hi Blue Grass, I have 26000 pics on this Mac alone. More in my other Macs around the house. The answer to my archiving nightmare is iPhoto made only for Macs. When I need a particular pic, all I need do is to boot up iPhoto and type in a keyword Smile
Norman Kelly

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 40
November 14, 2008 8:04pm

Hi Kayes,


Apologies, firstly for my Geographical Faux Pas, a senior moment methinks on my part, it was Telok Bahang and not Balik Pulau where Mr Lim's Orchid farm is, I realise that now.


Amazed at my old green 'Morris Minor', Registration, 'P9117' is still going strong after all these years, and yes I can confirm whilst I was one of its previous owners it was a Saloon Model, and it was not a convertible as it appears to be now.
Ann

Registered: September 2008
Posts: 36
November 15, 2008 3:01am

Hi Kayes, I enjoyed the exchange about rears especially the Dilarang panjat sign which is indeed a health warning! You do have a great collecton of pictures on vintage cars. How about creating a file for scenes of old Penang from the 1950s or earlier years?
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 15, 2008 8:36am

If there is a contest for "power rears". I think the Jags win. Look at the exhaust pipes from these two Jag Es. Don't stand behind them carelessly because one blast from the rear pipes (especially from the V12) can break your leg or at least blow a hole in your pants. Okay Ann, will see what I can do.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/jagrear5.jpg


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/jagrear6.jpg
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, Limestone coast, South Australia
Posts: 79
November 15, 2008 2:18pm

I think your 2 pics of the Jaguar "bums" are very enlightening as to how a good classic simple clean design can become bloated and middle aged with successive redesigns and modernisation. Indeed the most valuable of all E types by far are the Series 1 and so called series 1 1/2. Abortions like the 2+2 are almost worthless.
The same is very true of the GTV above also. I think no modern car can match its clean simple looks. I was once told that a truly good car design will make the vehicle look "as though it were hewn from a single lump of metal". The early 911's and the humble Moggie minor and 1963 Austin minis are good examples of this thought. If you consider fashion in clothes I think the same applies too. Almost every woman looks good in a little black dress usually the simpler the better. IMHO of course!
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 15, 2008 2:50pm

I agree Mike. A good case in point is the Datsun 240Z. My business partner bought one in 1974 and it was a beautiful car, lean and mean. Then came the 260Z, a bit fatter but still lovable. But Datsun didn't know where to stop and they soon put out the 280Z which was downright ugly and looked lethargic. I really don't know how fast the 280Z could go and so I don't want to be flamed here by 280Z lovers. But that car looked like as though it has got double hernia.
Bomoh

Registered: September 2008
Location: Mount Gambier, Limestone coast, South Australia
Posts: 79
November 15, 2008 3:00pm

Yes you have probably picked the best case of middle aged spread of all time. The 240Z was probably the best Jap sports car ever made. Delightful shape and wonderful straight 6 engine. In Malaysian terms it changed from Ning Baidura to Rafidah !!!!
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 16, 2008 11:27am

Here's another Italian rear. Stylish looking but can't beat the simplicity and beauty of the Duetto.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics3/italrear4.jpg
burdge

Registered: August 2011
Posts: 4
August 7, 2011 10:33am

Hi all


I have just come across this sight, and I would like to share some of my experiences while in Malaysia, especially, Penang.

My name is John Sainsbury. I served with the RAAF at Butterworth from 1966 to 1969 and resided at 8 Jajan Bunga Chempa Puteh, Hillside, Penang. My wife Pauline, was a teacher at the RAAF School,and the Annex.


I was involved in motor sport with the RAAF Butterworth Motor Club (RAAFBMC), driving a BMW 1800 Ti purchased from Asia Motors.


I competed in rallies, motorkhanas and sprints along Gurney Drive. The sprints and the Round The Island Rally was organised by the Penang and North Motor Club (PNMC). Sprints at the quarry, hillclimbs up Vale of Tempe Road were also organised by PNMC and RAAFBMC. There was also grass track racing at Kuala Kangsa, on the Sultan of Ipoh's Polo Ground.


I managed to roll a BMW loaned to me by Asia Motors on the left hand hair pin about 3/4 the way up Vale of Tempe.


There were also motor cycle trials in the quarry, as well as go-karting at Butterworth Air Base, Penang Stadium and in the Botanic Gardens (Monkey Gardens).


The Motor cycles also competed at the Singapore Grand Prix and Kuala Lumpa. The RAAFBMC had a huge membership, consisting of Australian, British and New Zealand servicmen, as well as local members from Malaysia.


What caught my eye, was the Round the Island Rally.


I was fortunate to win this rally in 1967 and 1968. The presentation of the huge trouphy was made at the Metropole Hotel. I am not sure if it still standing after all these years, although it was still there when I was posted back to Butterworth from 1979 to 1981.


The trouphy was perpetual, although if you won it three times, you kept it. The rally was held shortly after I returned to Australia in 1969, so I did not have the chance to retain the trouphy.


I noticed on a post in December 2008 by Clive Dennett,in relation to an Eddy who was involved in motor sport. His name was Eddy Choong.


I knew Eddy very well as a friend and fellow competitor in motor sport.


Not only did Eddy compete in all types of motor sport, he was also adept at rifle shooting, archery, tennis and excelled at badminton, having, I believe, won the All England Badminton title 7 times, which was then recognised as the World Championship.


I hope this has not been boring, but it brings back memories of Penang, Butterworth and Malaysia.


Thank you for you indulgance.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
August 7, 2011 11:27am

hello Burdge and welcome to my Penang Talk Forum. Your post is a most interesting read and helps to add to the motoring history of this country in general and Penang in particular. Do you have any old pics of Penang, whether motorsport pics or those of Penang in general? If you have I can put them up here at Penang Talk. I have another forum relating to classic/vintage cars which you might find interesting. It is at:-


http://PenangTalk.com/nmvccr


I used to rally a fair bit from 1972 to 1980 and the cars I have competed in are a Morris Cooper S, a Saab 99EMS, an Alfa Romeo Alfetta, a Renault R12 and a Mazda RE . Never won anything overall but got placed in Class a few times and the rallies gave me lots of fun. There was this rally in 1974, I think, which was organised by the RAAF Butterworth Motor Club and it was a really tricky route with lots of "mud traps" and sump breakers.


I also collect car badges from motoring clubs and below is a badge from the RAAF Butterworth Motor Club. Hope to read more of your posts Smile


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics6/raafmotor.jpg
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
August 8, 2011 1:54am

Here's a grille badge from the PNMMC (Penang & North Malaya Motor Club). By the way, the Metropole Hotel is long gone, one of the first heritage buildings to have been demolished without permission. And Eddy Choong is still running around looking after his family's various properties in Penang. He usually drives his Cefiro and sometimes the 250SL. I run into him occasionally at his favourite coffee shop in Pulau Tikus. Do you know Peter Oon (P.T. Oon)?


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics6/pnmmc.jpg
burdge

Registered: August 2011
Posts: 4
August 8, 2011 4:52am

Hi Kayes
Thanks for the response. Another fact that you may not be aware is a gentleman by the name of Robert Lee. He had a furniture making shop on Penang and I still have the teak buffet he made for my wife.


Robert was also involved in motor sport and purchased a racing Mini Cooper S that was taken Singapore by an Australian by the name of Brian Foley. This car, driven by Brian, competed in the Singapore Grand Prix


Robert used the car in Penang for sprints and hillclimbs. He also had from memory, I think a Lotus Super Seven, which he also used in the same venues.


I recall that I organised a quater mile sprint on the airfield at Butterworth in 1968 on behalf of the the RAAF motor Club. The Supplimentary Regulations stipulated that ALL CARS, regardless of make or class, had to have full harness or lap/sash seat belts.


Robert's Lotus had neither, and there was a mad rush to find and fit lap/sah belts before he could compete.


Duing my second tour 79/81, the name of the RAAF Butterworth Motor Club, changed to RAAF Motor Club as the base had come under Malaysian Air Force Control.


Also during this period, motor cycle motocross was organised by the RAAF Motor Club and racing was conducted on the left hand side out past Batu Ferringhi. Also on the base, we built a quarter mile speedway at the northjern end of the base on the left hand side. If you go into Google Earth and find the Air Force Base, you can still see traces of it.


I will try to retrieve some old photos, but as they are mainly slides, and I have hundreds, retrieving them is a mammoth task.


Thanks for a great site, and I will submit more as things come to my aging mind.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
August 8, 2011 9:29am

HI Burdge, this Mini was driven by Brian Foley in the 1977 or 1978 Penang Circuit Races where I was Sec of the Meet. Wonder if it is the same ex Robert Lee's car.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics6/brianfoley.jpg
burdge

Registered: August 2011
Posts: 4
August 8, 2011 10:31am

Hi Keyes
Thanks for the update. I dont think Brian Foley drove this car in Penang. Brian was a lot taller than the driver in the car.


I was amiss in not reading your full post before. I do remember Peter Oon, and reading your last post, I suspect you are he. Were you the service manager for Mecedes in Penang?


Memories are still flooding back.


I assisted as a scrutineer at the 79 and 80 Penang Circuit Races.


A little bit of trivia. Do you recall Lional Bain who was active in motor sport durin the 1960's. I run into him in 1980 duing my second tour. He was living at Bagan Ajam on the mainland at Butterworth.


His nephew lives in Canberra ( where I live) and he was also involved in motr sport.
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
August 8, 2011 4:05pm

hi Burdge, I know Brian Foley took part in the 1977 (or 78) Penang Circuit Race but I can't remember exactly which car (cars) he drove. Anyway, Foley must be in this pic Smile


I am not Peter Oon but we were both in the same profession before we retired. I am not the Service Manager of Lowe Motors (Mercedes guys) either. He is Tony Khaw. In the Penang Circuit Races, Peter was often the Clerk of the Course while Tony was the Chief Scrutineer. Sometimes I was Sec of the Meet.


All my friends know me as KS (KS=kayes) and many people may not know me or remember me because even though I was based in Penang, I had offices in KL and Ipoh. I actually spent more time in my KL and Ipoh offices. And therefore I was on the Penang motorsports scene in spurts. I was Vice President of the Penang Motor Sports club for three or four years, the late Hassan Min was the President. In motor rallies my entry was always under the Royal Perak Motor Club (RPMC) because of the insistence of Douglas Choong, a good friend and also because I was born in Ipoh and I felt a sense of loyalty to my home state. I could have bumped into you at the Penang Circuit Races but I don't remember. In Penang I lived at Hillside from 1974 to 1993 (28 Jalan Marie Pitchay which I bought from Wing Commander CP Coleman). While at Hillside I owned several cars mainly Alfa Romeos, a Porsche 911S Targa, a BMW 3.0Si, a Peugeot 604, a Saab 99 EMS, a couple of Range Rovers, a few Hondas etc etc ..... I was an absolute car freak. You must know Liew of the Hillside Esso Pump.


I have met the late Lionel Bain many times during Masonic Lodge Meetings in Penang. He was with the Scottish Lodge (Scotia) while I chaired the English Lodge (Royal Prince of Wales) for a couple of years, 1982/83. What is his nephew's name?


Best wishes and more later.


http://penangnewspaper.com/pics6/brianeddy.jpg
burdge

Registered: August 2011
Posts: 4
August 10, 2011 3:07am

Hi Keyes
Thanks for another update. I stand corrected. It is indeed Brian Foley at the left of the photo. I thought I kept pretty good track of Australian drivers competing overseas, but this slipped through.
Another bit of trivia. I was president of the RAAFBMC during part of my first tour at Butterworth, 66/69 and had the privilage of being invited to the first race meeting at the brand new circuit in KL.


I remember Tony Khaw. Got him confused with Peter Oon. I also recall Hassan Min, although I only knew him as Hassan.


There were a lot of characters around the RAAFBMC and the PNMMC during my time. There was "Goldfinger" who was a salesman at Asia Motors and towards the end of my second was the sales manager for Alfa Romeo in Penang.


There was also Robert Pang who managed a tyre shop in Penang and was involved in motor sport. Duing my second tour, he had moved to Ipoh. The manager of Asia Motors in the late 60's was Mr Lim, who had moved to Singapore before my second tour.


Keep things comming, the memories are coming back.


Regards
John
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
August 10, 2011 4:11am

hi John,


Robert Pang is still running his tyre shop in Ipoh which is called Perak Tyre Service Centre at the junction of Jalan Yang Kalsom/Chamberlain Road, Ipoh. I see him whenever I go to Ipoh which is not often nowadays. I think his shop in Penang (Transfer Road?) was called Ace Auto which he partnered with another chap, the name of which escapes me at the moment. I used to buy most of my tyres from Robert.


Goldfinger had passed away and he was indeed a colourful character. A couple of City Motor's Branch Managers in Penang I remember are Eric Thean and Robert Cheah. In the photo above showing Brian Foley, fourth from left is Datuk Foo Wan Kien the owner of City Motors and the guy who was responsible for racing all those Alfas in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Without City Motor's participation on the local motorsport scene, motor racing would not have been so exciting. Eddy Choong is second from left. Third from left is Sonny Rajah. On the extreme right is Albert Poon of Hong Kong. Next to him is Horlan Tung, the Sales Manager of City Motors, Ipoh.


The race circuit in KL you referred to must be Batu Tiga. I have never entered a race (even though I did enter many rallies) but I did book the Batu Tiga track during weekends to have fun in my 911S or my race tuned Berlina, with Harvey Yap as my personal coach. Clocked some pretty good times. I did not race as I knew some of my clients were worried that if I overshot Rothman's Corner and ended up needing crutches, I would not be able to do their work Smile


Best wishes,
kayes
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
January 28, 2013 3:05pm

hello Burdge, have you managed to scan some motor racing pics from your slides? If so, please email them to me and I will post them here.
Richard

Registered: November 2013
Posts: 2
November 2, 2013 12:46pm

Kayes I have stumbled across your website as I am restoring a Lotus 7. I live in Australia and bought a Lotus 7 which was sold as part of a deceased estate. I was told by the family that the car used to be raced in Malaysia prior to coming to Australia. You mentioned Robert Lee and I wonder if it could possibly have been his car. I don't have any documentation to support these claims. If anyone has any pictures of the car raced by Robert Lee that would be very helpful. Richard
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 3, 2013 9:22am

hi Richard and welcome to Penang Talk Smile I am not sure whether I have any pics of that Lotus 7 but I will check . Meanwhile why not send me some pics of the 7 in its present condition and I will post them here Smile
Richard

Registered: November 2013
Posts: 2
November 17, 2013 12:05am

I have some pics on my iphone, how can I send them to you.
Do you have an email I can send them to?
Richard
kayes

Registered: July 2008
Posts: 3,005
November 19, 2013 3:37am

Richard, my email is kayes777@gmail.com



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